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ID:649
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Alice Smith 1857-1925
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Relationship:
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Gaz's 2nd Great Grandmother
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Birth:
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1857 Wanstead, Essex,
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Death:
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8 JUNE 1925 Norton Canes, Staffordshire
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Mother:
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Father:
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Frederick Smith
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Siblings
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Alice Smith (b.1857)/ID:649
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Spouse:
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Charles Taylor (b.1855)/ID:716
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Children:
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Frederick Taylor (b.1879)/ID:724
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Henry Taylor (b.1880)/ID:729
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Charles Taylor (b.1883)/ID:717
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John Taylor (b.1884)/ID:733
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Emily Taylor (b.1884)/ID:721
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George William Taylor (Grey) (b.1892)/ID:747
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Lucy Taylor (b.1896)/ID:738
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Spouse:
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Isaiah Whitehouse (b.1857) /ID:866
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We are still trying to find hard evidence to substantiate evidence about Alices early life. We originally thought we had found her but then found conflicting facts that cast some doubt on her presumed parentage
so have gone back to base.
We know Alice was born born in Wanstead, Essex in 1856/7.
We know from family memories that there was a name change within the family years ago and that the name Gray is connected
to the family. In 1911 census in Norton Canes , Alices son George used the name Gray .
We were unable to find marriage any details for Alice Smith and Charles Taylor in the West Ham area but we did find the
record below for Charles Gray and Alice Taylor. Bearing in mind the surnames of the couples eldest sons, Frederick and Henry, it seems almost too much of a coincidence that Alices father is named as Frederick and Charles father
is named as Henry to discount this possible marriage entry.
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In the entry although inconclusive we have the following clues:
* We knew prior to starting the tree the name Gray was in the family and that a namechange had taken place
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The birth years are consistent with what we already know.
* The marriage date is consistent with the birth dates of their children
*The place, West Ham is where their first two children were born
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Frederick and Henry were the names of their first two children and are the names of their fathers in the document.
* There is nothing in the entry that conflicts with what we know
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Son, Frederick Thomas Taylor was born in West Ham, London in 1879.
Son Henry was born in 1880 in West Ham.
Son Charles was born in June 1883 in Walthomstow.
Son John was born in 1884 in Edmonton, Essex.
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We know that in 1884 the family moved to Nottingham. According to the birth certificate his sister Emily was born in a van opposite Goodhead Street in November 1884 which indicates the family may have been
travellers/gypsies.
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Daughter Emily was born in 1884 in Nottingham.
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1891
1891 Census for '9 Leather Street, Nottingham'
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Name
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Relationship
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Status
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Age
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Est YOB
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Gender
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Birth County
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Occupation
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Alice Taylor
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Head
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Widowed
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34
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1857
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Female
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Wanstead, Essex
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Charlady
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Fred Taylor
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Son
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13
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1878
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Male
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West Ham, Essex
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Coal Labourer
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Henry Taylor
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Son
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11
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1880
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Male
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West Ham, Essex
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Schoolboy
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Charles Taylor
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Son
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8
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1883
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Male
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Walthamstow, Essex
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Schoolboy
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John Taylor
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Son
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7
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1884
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Male
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Edmonton, Essex
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Schoolboy
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Emily Taylor
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Daughter
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6
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1885
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Female
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Nottingham, Notts
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Schoolgirl
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July 1892, Birth of son George William Taylor in St Phillips, Nottingham.
Between 1892 and 1895 we know Alice and her family moved to Norton Canes in Staffordshire.
In 1895, Alice had another child, Lucy at Norton Canes. We are unsure of who her father was at present
In 1900, Alices son Henry married Christina Stackhouse, daughter of Isaiah Whitehouse and Jane Stackhouse (nee Phillips)
1901
1901 Census for 'Stokes Lane, Norton Canes, Staffordshire'
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Name
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Relationship
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Status
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Age
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Est YOB
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Gender
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Birth County
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Occupation
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Alice Taylor
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Head
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Widowed
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43
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1858
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Female
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Wanstead, Essex
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Charlady
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Charles Taylor
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Son
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Single
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19
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1882
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Male
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Walthamstow, Essex
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Colliery Horse Driver Below Ground
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George Taylor
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Son
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9
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1892
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Male
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St Philips, Notts
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Lucy Taylor
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Daughter
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6
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1895
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Female
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Norton Canes, Staffs
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Fanny Cooper
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Boarder
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30
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1871
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Female
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Norton Canes, Staffs
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Charles Cooper
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Boarder
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1mth
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1901
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Male
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Norton Canes, Staffs
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1903 - Marriage of Isaiah Whitehouse and Alice Smith (registered as Taylor) at St James, Norton Canes, Staffordshire.
1911
1911 Census for 'Stokes Lane, Norton Canes, Staffordshire
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Name
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Relationship
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Status
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Age
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Est YOB
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Gender
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Birth County
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Occupation
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Isiah Whitehouse
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Head
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Married
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52
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1859
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Male
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Staunton, Glocs
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Waggoner
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Alice Whitehouse
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Wife
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Married
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54
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1857
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Female
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Woodford, Essex
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George Gray
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Stepson
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Single
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19
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1892
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Male
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Nottingham, Notts
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Pony Driver in Coal Pit
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Alice sadly passed away on June 5th 1925 at Norton Canes. She is buried at St James Church in Norton Canes on June 11th 1925. Despite a couple of attempts we have been unable to find
her grave at the churchyard.
